From philb at philb.us Fri Jul 21 00:50:19 2006 From: philb at philb.us (Phil Barnett) Date: Tue Oct 31 17:49:51 2006 Subject: [School] Some links Message-ID: <200607210050.19555.philb@philb.us> http://www.gnu.org/education/software.html http://debianlinux.net/education.html -- There are 10 kinds of people - those that understand binary ... and 9 others I can't remember From halehsd at earthlink.net Fri Jul 21 22:14:00 2006 From: halehsd at earthlink.net (Hale Pringle) Date: Tue Oct 31 17:49:51 2006 Subject: [School] Objectives Message-ID: <1153534440.20378.39.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Guys! I just browsed around the links that Phil sent for a while and I have a suggestion . We need to create and more or less agree on a (limited) number of objectives for this project. To brush off a golden oldie. If we don't know where we are going, we'll never know if we get there! I'll drop a personal note in here that I think makes the point. When I ran the student/teacher computing for UCF I had a "vision" of where I wanted us to go and I foungt tooth and nail to move us in that direction. After I left my number 2 took over. When we met a year later he had an interesting insight. He said (more or less) "Hale I used to really resent the small group of developers that you held back from me. I really needed those folks to fight the fires on campus. After you left and they were MINE, boy did we handle the fires. Now I look around and I realize that there is no wake behind our boat. We're not going anywhere. I also realize that those guys were the ones rowing the damn boat. Ah well....." My point is that we need to have a direction and all row in that direction. We can change direction but at least when we look back we won't see vast circles going nowhere. ****************************************** Here is a quick list to start the ball. (Perhaps a wiki would be better here.) I. Create an elementary classroom computer lab with the following characteristics. 1. Based on Linux. 2. Virtually all open-source/free for education software. 3. Rock solid operation (at the expense of lots of neat stuff.) 4. Remote Administration (complete with remote reboot of the server.) 5. Classroom PCs are cloned. If one gets squirrelly the first thing the teacher do is reclone it. 6. Most software is run from a central server reducing to a minimum the ways the client PCs can get strange. 7. A take-home version should be available (perhaps a Knoppix type or attach here an clone) 8. We must have an on-line bug-tracking system. 9. We must have an on-line feature request system. 10. We must have at least XX teachers from the school on this list. II. Create a repeatable project that we can clone at other schools and others can clone from us 1. We log everything - problems - setup time - administration time - USAGE!!!! (what was used and for how long) 2. We listen to the teachers and we don't talk at all. 3. We train ourselves in how to do this and do it in a world class way 4. We realize that we haven't done something until we have documented it so that others know we did it, why we did it, how we knew when to do it and HOW WE DID IT. 5. We evangelize it (I'll tell you honest and true I can't sell for $$$, but I can get you to hand over you savings account when I talk about something I believe in. We want lots of people who feel that way about this project.) 6. We focus on HOW WE DO IT and we find others with the same focus. There appear to be too many parts catalogs (lists of free stuff) and not enough how-to manuals 7. We give concrete benefits to those who actively participate and I don't mean $$$. We give certificates, endorsements, "Ask me about the Linux Classroom Project!" buttons, opportunities to consult/write/speak. etc. III Repeat until done! (I feel like Bryan so I'll shut up now.) Hale From philb at philb.us Sat Jul 22 22:08:59 2006 From: philb at philb.us (Phil Barnett) Date: Tue Oct 31 17:49:51 2006 Subject: [School] Sunday Morning Moving Crew. Message-ID: <200607222208.59870.philb@philb.us> I know it's late notice, but I can use a couple of you Sunday morning (10 AM) to get some pallets off the truck I borrowed from work. I have a pallet jack and a lift gate, so I could probably do it by myself, but it's always good to have a little backup. We will be unloading at: Shurgard Storage 310 W Central Parkway, Altamonte Springs, Florida http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=310+W+Central+Parkway, +Altamonte+springs, +Florida&ie=UTF8&ll=28.668186,-81.396203&spn=0.02489,0.053945&om=1 Call me before you leave home. We don't need too many people, just a few for this one. 321-277-6954 Thanks. -- There are 10 kinds of people - those that understand binary ... and 9 others I can't remember From philb at philb.us Mon Jul 24 09:10:45 2006 From: philb at philb.us (Phil Barnett) Date: Tue Oct 31 17:49:51 2006 Subject: [School] School Work Session Message-ID: <200607240910.45919.philb@philb.us> We will be having a shool machine work session this Saturday. Details to follow. -- There are 10 kinds of people - those that understand binary ... and 9 others I can't remember From philb at philb.us Thu Jul 27 23:33:17 2006 From: philb at philb.us (Phil Barnett) Date: Tue Oct 31 17:49:51 2006 Subject: [School] Work session Sunday, not Saturday. Message-ID: <200607272333.17823.philb@philb.us> I'm like to call a get together for Sunday afternoon to get the machines imaged and monitors, keyboards and mice tested. I'll have a big truck with a lift gate to move the stuff around from the storage unit to the school. So, here's the plan. At 9:30 am, I'll need two people to help me load the truck from the storage unit. This should take no longer than an hour. Then at 1:00 pm, we'll all meet at the installfest location to start working on the systems. I'd like to be done by 5 or 6 pm. Anything not destined for a classroom at that point will go back on the truck and back to the storage unit. If you can come and help, I'd sure appreciate your help. If you can be there early Sunday, give me a call on my cell phone at 321-277-6954 some time Friday. I don't need a huge crew there. Thanks. This is going to be fun. -- There are 10 kinds of people - those that understand binary ... and 9 others I can't remember From whittake at sbaflorida.com Fri Jul 28 16:24:03 2006 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 17:49:51 2006 Subject: [School] Sunday Worker Message-ID: <44CA7263.8020908@sbaflorida.com> Count me in for one of the Sunday PM crew. Homer Whittaker' From philb at philb.us Sun Jul 30 09:07:45 2006 From: philb at philb.us (Phil Barnett) Date: Tue Oct 31 17:49:51 2006 Subject: [School] Today, we will be at the School working on imaging the machines. Message-ID: <200607300907.45198.philb@philb.us> Some of us will be there starting at 9:30. The school is at the rear of the building where we hold our installfests. This session is expected to last into the afternoon, so if you have some spare time, please come to the school and help. Thanks. -- There are 10 kinds of people - those that understand binary ... and 9 others I can't remember From fred at fmeco.com Sun Jul 30 20:55:47 2006 From: fred at fmeco.com (Fred Moore) Date: Tue Oct 31 17:49:51 2006 Subject: [School] Today, we will be at the School working on imaging the machines. In-Reply-To: <200607300907.45198.philb@philb.us> References: <200607300907.45198.philb@philb.us> Message-ID: <200607302055.48535.fred@fmeco.com> On Sunday 30 July 2006 09:07, Phil Barnett wrote: > Some of us will be there starting at 9:30. The school is at the rear of the > building where we hold our installfests. > > This session is expected to last into the afternoon, so if you have some > spare time, please come to the school and help. > > Thanks. -- Fred Moore fred@fmeco.com From whittake at sbaflorida.com Fri Jul 28 15:19:31 2006 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 17:49:51 2006 Subject: [School] Work session Sunday, not Saturday. Message-ID: <1154114371.12195.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Realizing that you did not call for a response, however it might help to know what your crew will look like. Count me in :) Homer Whittaker