[Leaplist] mouse

Sat Mar 20 16:09:02 EDT 2010

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

My only complaint about Gentoo and HAL was that it was a bit sudden.
There was very little warning that after installing the upgrade your X
will probably not work anymore though the problem will probably be easy
to deal with.

On my Eee I did have to modify the HAL settings for the touchpad to make
it work decently (no evil tap clicking, two finger scrolling at a usable
speed).  The HAL config files are a bit uglier than the xorg.conf file
but it is so nice that X will now just work most of the time without
config.  It may not work optimally or the way you want it but it will at
least work.  That is very helpful when you need to hit Google to figure
out how to configure it.

On 03/20/10 16:03, Bryan J Smith wrote:
> I've only met one (1) Gentoo user on another LUG list who absolutely
> hates HAL, the DBUS/GNOME integration and other things.
> Then again, he complains about Linux (although most of the time
> he's complaining about PCs, even if he thinks it's Linux), and not
> taking interest in reading any of the docs/links he's sent.
> 
> The only thing I'll agree with him on is that Gentoo makes LFS
> pretty much a non-consideration. I love Gentoo for exactly
> that level of control when I can't have a "fat" distro.
> 
> --  
> Bryan J Smith - mailto:b.j.smith at ieee.org  
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile  
>     
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>
> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:27:53 
> To: This is the Leap Main List<leaplist at leap-cf.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leaplist] mouse
> 
> I really liked it when Gentoo upgraded to the modern X with the HAL
> system.  Lots of people had issues and the solution was almost
> universally to simply remove large sections of the xorg.conf file.  In
> fact in many cases the solution was to actually DELETE the xorg.conf
> file and run without one.  Talk about a night and day difference from
> the way things used to be.
> 
> On 03/20/10 15:20, Bryan J Smith wrote:
>> Yep, the xorg.conf hardware and most other sections are for
>> overriding autodetection/defaults.  All and I mean 100% of the
>> X configuration issues I've solved for people in the last 2 years
>> has been to generate a new xorg.conf and comment out whole
>> sections.
> 
>> Although one user was really thick and I took about 3 weeks
>> to convince him on one list.  ;)
> 
>> --  
>> Bryan J Smith - mailto:b.j.smith at ieee.org  
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile  
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>
>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:15:21 
>> To: This is the Leap Main List<leaplist at leap-cf.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leaplist] mouse
> 
>> Even the hard distros auto-detect mice now.  The standard setup for X
>> now is to not specify at all unless the device is an unusual one.
>> Specifying generic input devices in xorg.conf is discouraged (and tends
>> to not even work).
> 
>> In fact even connecting a second keyboard and/or mouse usually just works.
> 
>> On 03/20/10 15:08, Bryan J Smith wrote:
>>> Reconfiguration isn't necessary. Nearly all distros auto-detect
>>> dynamically. It's been like this since before the X.org chnage.
> 
>>> Most logitech mice accept the PS/2 to USB adapter. There
>>> are only a few that do not.
> 
>>> As I mentioned, I only buy in bulk.  About 3-4 years ago I bought
>>> a whole dozen of the Logitech Ultra-X, which was an OEM/
>>> after-market model that most people have never heard of.
>>> It's the absolute best tracking LED optical I've ever used, and
>>> almost as good as a laser.  My price? $40 for the whole lot, shipped.
>>> And that included the adapters with the mouse.
> 
>>> I have some inexpensive Belkin wireless units as well that I bought
>>> for $8/each in quantity, although I'm not a big fan of the tracking.
> 
>>> To this day I still use the Ultra-X wired ones, even on planes
>>> (especially since you're not supposed to use wireless devices
>>> on aircraft, even on the ones that allow WLAN).
> 
>>> --  
>>> Bryan J Smith - mailto:b.j.smith at ieee.org  
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile  
> 
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jim Hartley <xjimh at cfl.rr.com>
>>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:52:02 
>>> To: This is the Leap Main List<leaplist at leap-cf.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leaplist] mouse
> 
>>> If you don't really need it, why pay for wireless? You can get a wired 
>>> USB mouse at Office depot for $10-12.
> 
>>> I had to buy a mouse last week, my old one, one of the last of the 
>>> "rubber ball" ones, had the rollers so grunked up I couldn't get them 
>>> clean ... ALL the new ones are optical. Unfortunately ALMOST ALL of the 
>>> new ones are USB, and I didn't want to have to reconfigure, I just 
>>> wanted to plug in a replacement and have the computer not notice (yeah, 
>>> I was being lazy, but it worked).
> 
>>> You'd think they'd figure out that a lot of old PS/2 mice are dying and 
>>> stock more replacements, but no, the damn stores only want to carry the 
>>> latest and greatest. The idiot salesman told me they had NO PS/2 mice, 
>>> I'd have to try to find it on-line. He was wrong, there were a couple 
>>> with adapters, but I'm ashamed to admit what brand I had to buy to get 
>>> that. With the adapter so it could advertise "USB/PS2" on the box it was 
>>> about $21.
> 
>>> Jim Hartley
> 
> 
>>> Tom Foster wrote:
>>>> howdy guys,
>>>>
>>>> Where can I get a good but relatively inexpensive small wireless
>>>> mouse?  I just saw one yesterday that tempted me,with a little
>>>> stubby usb thing, but it cost 40 bucks.  Since I don't really need a
>>>> mouse, that's too much to pay.  Any suggestions?
>>>>
> 
> 
> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leaplist mailing list
>>> Leaplist at leap-cf.org
>>> http://lists.leap-cf.org/mailman/listinfo/leaplist
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Leaplist mailing list
> Leaplist at leap-cf.org
> http://lists.leap-cf.org/mailman/listinfo/leaplist
> 

_______________________________________________
Leaplist mailing list
Leaplist at leap-cf.org
http://lists.leap-cf.org/mailman/listinfo/leaplist

- -- 
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
	Systems Administrator		Internet:
	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
	PGP public key available on web site.
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iEYEARECAAYFAkulK14ACgkQVKC1jlbQAQdpZwCgqaxWDNhOZxOZ8Ay4XB4Bg5LA
fDsAoM2w0KBK3s1qT7+DNgCnMKoGPUR9
=h1vg
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-- 
This message has been scanned for viruses and
dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
believed to be clean.