[Leaplist] Can a deleted file be recovered on one's personal computer?

[William Ferguson]

Jim, thank you.

You're making me think that the "Move to Trash" option in Fedora 11 is just
the GUI name for the command line "rm" command.

The only drawback to that reasoning is---when I use the "Move to Trash" option,
SOMETIMES---it works. That is, the file actually appears in the "Trash"
file and can be manipulated in whatever way User desires.

I have not been able to figure out what the distinction Fedora 11 Op. System
uses to employ  "rm" or "Delete" on some files I try to copy and move
from their original
locations to a target Folder--------and how Fedora 11 decides to actually
send the file to "Trash" where it can be recalled it desired.

Could it be that highlighting a file, then using Copy, and then dragging it
to a desired Subject X Folder causes that file to be lost when the Target
Subject X Folder is closed?  Then, a few seconds later, when I delete
the file in its original, highlighted, location, the file is lost in both its
original location and its destination Subject X Folder. ?

Could it be that if I used the "Cut" option (instead of "Copy")  to
move the desired file from its original
location to the new "Subject X" Folder that the file would be successfully
moved to the "Subject X" Folder but not lost?

I'll try it.

William
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On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Jim Hartley <xjimh at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> "Trash" is pretty much a GUI function ... yes, there is a folder for it,
>  but not every program uses it, and mostly the GUI (Gnome or KDE) programs.
> Even those don't always put stuff in "Trash," some (Nautilis for example)
> have a "Delete Bypass Trash" option.
>
> Once you get down to the Command Line, it knows from nothing about "Trash."
> Using a "rm" command will delete the file, NOT send it to trash.
>
> Now the bad news - if a file is deleted (say with RM) there is no way to
> "unerase" it. The file system does not support this, so if you are thinking
> about the old DOS FAT file system and unerase, forget it!
>
> Bottom line - be careful what you delete!
>
> JIm Hartley
>
> William Ferguson wrote:
>>
>> My Op. system is Fedora 11.
>>
>> What I'm about to describe has happened several times.
>> I seek understanding of why this problem arises.
>> I seek information as to whether there's any potential for recovery of
>> lost data.
>>
>> When running my Linux Fedora 11 computer there are many occasions when I
>> send a file to "Trash."
>>
>> Later, when I open Trash, the file is there and can be expunged.
>>
>> But here's why I write to the List:
>> Often, when I open "Trash" after having sent a file to Trash, the file
>> is NOT in Trash. It has been deleted. Searching the machine
>> fails to find the lost file.
>>
>> Today I used "Find" to learn where files about "Subject X" were located.
>>
>> I created a Folder in my /home/william directory which I named
>> "Subject X."
>>
>> I opened both the just-located files screen and the New Subject X folder
>> so that
>> the the screens were side by side on the screen.
>> I highlighted those files.
>>
>> Then I dragged the Subject X files, as a group,  from whatever
>> location I had found
>> them in---dragged them, on the screen, as a group, to the new Subject X
>> folder.
>>
>> The /home/william folder now immediately  showed the addition of all
>> of the files to the new
>> /home/william/Subject X Folder.
>>
>> I thought:  Well, now, these files are now obviously successfully copied
>> to the
>> /home/william/Subject X  Folder.
>>
>> Then I closed the /home/william/Subject X Folder.
>>
>> Then I right clicked the highlighted files screen and chose from the
>> drop-down menu
>> "Move to Trash."
>>
>> I then opened /home/william and scrolled down looking for the "Subject
>> X" Folder.
>> No such "Subject X" Folder was found.
>>
>> I used "Find" again and tried to uncover the whereabouts of "Subject X."
>> There was no such Folder to be found.
>> And searching for individual files yielded zero results.
>>
>> My questions:
>>
>> How is it that sometimes sending a file to "Trash" works fine---
>> which is to say ---  the file is found when Trash is opened and may be
>> reactivated if  desired. ?
>>
>> But, unhappily, ofttimes the file has been deleted and never appears in
>> Trash even tho'  consigned to that Folder.
>>
>> Please teach me what I'm doing wrong.
>>
>> Is there any possible way that I can recover such LOST files?
>>
>> I don't remember the details of this next sentence:
>> In earlier versions of Fedora, I could sometimes find a "Trash"
>> Folder, I think it might have been in the "tmp" area of the Root
>> Directory, and the Trashed files could be recovered.
>>
>> Any guidance you may offer will be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> William
>>
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