[Leaplist] omega 11 help.

[Ray Brunkow]

Bryan J. Smith wrote:
> Ray Brunkow wrote:  
>   
>> Omega ... has its hickups mainly with flash ...
>> that would mean to me that the default FF flash plug-in that comes 
>> with Omega is older then flash 9 so nothing newer then flash 8.
>>     
>
> Your analysis of having Flash support through version 8 is likely
> correct, and here's why ...
>
> Remember two (2) things with regards to Omega:  
> 1.  It still only includes open source (and/or freely redistributable)
> 2.  It will not replace default Fedora components
>
> Omega will not do #1 because it's illegal redistribution.
>
> The case of #2 is that you're not running Adobe Firefox but Swfdec:  
>   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Swfdec  
> It only does through Flash 8, hence your symptoms.  ;)
>
> You should see that swfdec is the plugin via the URL about:plugins.
>   
that is clear enough to understand.
> I'm surprised Omega didn't install the YUM for Adobe, although it may
> have, and it is disabled by default (as "Non-Free").  Not sure.
> Warren Togami (one of the originators of the original University of
> Hawaii "Fedora" project) setup the repository for Adobe IIRC.
>
> You might have been only a yum install [--enable] away already.  ;)
>   
Seems it was just having a bad day.  Even after several restarts to FF 
and to Omega it self it just did not want to work.  After reading your 
e-mail I was going to follow your steps at the end to remove/add flash 
but for what ever reason FF chose to work this time and install and 
activate Flash.
> So does Adobe Flash 9+ support now come with Windows 7 out-of-the-box?
>   
I do not think it was part of the default install as I did not play with 
IE much other then to use it for updates to the OS and to download and 
install FF.  I never did test the flash in FF as it does not come as a 
default and was not part of the test parameters knowing that there are 
issues with flash in all OSs.
>   
>> FYI the DVD playback works, but is real clunky and does not work 
>> well.  I will muddle around with that later.
>>     
>
> That's more of an X11 driver overlay issue.  It's likely that Xv
> is in use, but your X11 driver does not have an accelerated driver
> for the overlay -- Xv and, also, the Xvmc (motion compensation
> extension).
>
> Fedora 11 actually ships the noveau driver for nVidia, instead of the
> nv driver.  But it still doesn't accelerate 3D and only limited 2D.
> I haven't checked if it does Xv, much less Xvmc and other things.
> That's assuming you have nVidia.
>
> Installing the nVidia drivers solves the problem.  In fact, Omega
> should have RPM Fusion (fka Livna + FreshRPMS + others) setup by
> default, although it may only have the "Free" (Open Source) enabled,
> and not "Non-Free" (commercially copyrighted) with the nVidia driver.
>  
> So, again here, you might have been only a yum install [--enable]
> away already.  ;)
>
> Again, there is a massive liability issue of not doing so.
>   
I will check my X11 and see if it is running nv or the nvidia drivers.
>   
>> follow up.  i have installed via yum both adobe-release-i386.noarc
>> and flash-plugin.i386 and still have zero access to flash.
>>     
>
> Uninstall the swfdec package, restart filefox, type about:plugins.
> If Shockwave/Flash r10 is not listed, then re-install flash-plugin
> and it should be.
>
> There was a past debate whether Swfdec should be installed by
> default,because it affects other distros downstream.  Such as you
> have now discovered.
>  -- 
> Bryan J  Smith           Professional, Technical Annoyance 
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>
>
>
>   
as for flash in linux v windows, that was not my point to this e-mail 
that is why i started a new e-mail just asking for help with omega and 
not in the sad state of linux default desktop install e-mails.

-- 
Raymond L. Brunkow
5th Degree Black Belt
Certified Instructor
Choong Sil Kwan TaekwonDo Federation


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