[Leaplist] sad state of Linux default desktop installs

[Ray Brunkow]

Kevin Korb wrote:
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> I have heard stories of people paying for internet access and using a
> neighbor's wifi instead by mistake.  Not sure if those are an urban
> legend, one of those tech support coffee cup holder stories, or true but
> it is funny and believable.
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LoL.  I am guessing they had their windows computer/laptop configure to 
connect to any and all connections as I could see theirs.  So they were 
paying for service, or at least broadcasting wifi.  either way, its no 
longer an issue.
> On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:15:32 -0400
> Ray Brunkow <ray at brunkow.ws> wrote:
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>> Kevin Korb wrote:
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>>> I hate to say it but that is the kind of security that only works
>>> because your neighbor is too dumb to figure it out.
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>>> I wish my neighbor had wifi.  He has a different ISP so if he had wifi
>>> I would happily trade authentication information to be used only in an
>>> outage.
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>> Yes agree, or they just did not know they were tapping into my network.  
>> That is my guess.  I doubt it was intentional or malicious.
>>
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>>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:10:29 -0400
>>> Ray Brunkow <ray at brunkow.ws> wrote:
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>>>> Kevin Korb wrote:
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>>>>> I am surprised that they operated that way in the absence of a DHCP
>>>>> server.  I would fully expect them to just work in the presence of a
>>>>> DHCP server but without one they should revert to the old way and
>>>>> prompt you for the network information.  I would agree completely
>>>>> with your failure assessment.
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>>>> That was my thought too.  This is what Debian did, and ONLY Debian.  
>>>> Again a step backwards IMHO for Linux installs.
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>>>>> BTW, I only put a DHCP server on my LAN because it is required for
>>>>> network (PXE) booting.  All of my systems have static IPs assigned in
>>>>> the dhcpd.conf and my non-network booting systems are configured to
>>>>> just ignore the server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wifi is different.  I actually prefer a DHCP approach there.  Mainly
>>>>> because everywhere else uses DHCP therefore any wireless device I own
>>>>> will be configured for DHCP so I may as well serve the DHCP at my
>>>>> home as well.  It makes my laptop auto-configure itself for my
>>>>> network and auto-configure itself for whatever other network I
>>>>> happen to be using it on.  It is static too of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't really consider DHCP or static IPs to be a security
>>>>> feature.  I consider static IPs to be a convenience that is well
>>>>> worth the tiny amount of time required to configure and allocate
>>>>> them.
>>>>>
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>>>> I had an issue with neighbors piggybacking on my bandwidth when I was 
>>>> running DHCP even with WEP (yeah it sucks, but its all my wifi router 
>>>> offers need to buy a newer one) and no broadcast. 
>>>>
>>>> Once I went to static and disabled all DHCP the piggybacking stopped
>>>> and has not been an issue since.
>>>>
>>>> I only have 3 computers in my house not including my IPCop as my
>>>> laptop is on the fritz and dont have the $$ to fix it or replace it
>>>> atm. -snip-
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> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
> 	PGP public key available on web site.
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