[Leaplist] sad state of Linux default desktop installs

[Ray Brunkow]

Kevin Korb wrote:
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> I hate to say it but that is the kind of security that only works because
> your neighbor is too dumb to figure it out.
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> I wish my neighbor had wifi.  He has a different ISP so if he had wifi I
> would happily trade authentication information to be used only in an
> outage.
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Yes agree, or they just did not know they were tapping into my network.  
That is my guess.  I doubt it was intentional or malicious.

> On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:10:29 -0400
> Ray Brunkow <ray at brunkow.ws> wrote:
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>> Kevin Korb wrote:
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>>> I am surprised that they operated that way in the absence of a DHCP
>>> server.  I would fully expect them to just work in the presence of a
>>> DHCP server but without one they should revert to the old way and
>>> prompt you for the network information.  I would agree completely with
>>> your failure assessment.
>>>   
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>> That was my thought too.  This is what Debian did, and ONLY Debian.  
>> Again a step backwards IMHO for Linux installs.
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>>> BTW, I only put a DHCP server on my LAN because it is required for
>>> network (PXE) booting.  All of my systems have static IPs assigned in
>>> the dhcpd.conf and my non-network booting systems are configured to
>>> just ignore the server.
>>>
>>> Wifi is different.  I actually prefer a DHCP approach there.  Mainly
>>> because everywhere else uses DHCP therefore any wireless device I own
>>> will be configured for DHCP so I may as well serve the DHCP at my home
>>> as well.  It makes my laptop auto-configure itself for my network and
>>> auto-configure itself for whatever other network I happen to be using
>>> it on.  It is static too of course.
>>>
>>> I don't really consider DHCP or static IPs to be a security feature.  I
>>> consider static IPs to be a convenience that is well worth the tiny
>>> amount of time required to configure and allocate them.
>>>
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>> I had an issue with neighbors piggybacking on my bandwidth when I was 
>> running DHCP even with WEP (yeah it sucks, but its all my wifi router 
>> offers need to buy a newer one) and no broadcast. 
>>
>> Once I went to static and disabled all DHCP the piggybacking stopped and 
>> has not been an issue since.
>>
>> I only have 3 computers in my house not including my IPCop as my laptop 
>> is on the fritz and dont have the $$ to fix it or replace it atm.
>> -snip-
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