[Leaplist] WINE (Was: More Anti-Linux Propaganda from MicroSuck and Worst Buy)

Patrick pberry2 at cfl.rr.com
Thu Sep 10 20:15:26 EDT 2009


Kevin Korb wrote:
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> I gave up on it back then too.
>
> However, when I was setting up a Ubuntu desktop for my grandmother late
> last year I gave it a try again.  There were some freebie Windows games
> that she used to play on Win98 and I wanted to try to make them work on
> the new system.  Out of 6 games only 3 of them worked at all and one of
> them was almost unplayable.
>
> BTW, the best one of them that I got to work was: Cubemaster Gold which is
> a very good Tetris remake.  It is especially good if you have a collection
> of old tracked music to add to it.  Here is the site for it: 
> http://w1.435.telia.com/~u43509647/
>
> Your xterm will be filled with errors and it will even throw two popup
> errors about sound when you first launch it but it does work and is
> playable and that is about all you can hope for out of wine.
>
>
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:32:29 -0400
> Jason Boxman <jasonb at edseek.com> wrote:
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>> Derek Konigsberg wrote:
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>>> I can't speak for Ventrilo, but WoW falls into the small category of:
>>> "Application someone put considerable specific effort into Wine to
>>> make it work."
>>>
>>> Also in this category would be some outdated version of MS Office, and 
>>> just enough other "seed" applications that it allows many Linux 
>>> advocates to falsely claim that "Wine runs most Windows apps".
>>>
>>> Sometime, if anyone is curious, try running some serious Windows app 
>>> *other* than WoW or an old version of MS Office, and see how far you 
>>> get. But launch it from a terminal window.  Then, look at all the
>>> "stub" and "fixme" messages flying by.  Then, go to Microsoft's
>>> website and look up all the API calls that Wine didn't implement yet
>>> or stubbed out.  You'll notice that they generally date back to
>>> Windows 2000.  And its currently 2009.
>>>       
>> No kidding.  I gave up on wine back in about 2003 or 2004.  It never ran 
>> anything outside of specific applications that it was specifically tuned 
>> for.  In the age of cheap virtualization, it hardly matters anymore, 
>> even without a dedicated physical box for Windows to run on...
>>
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Jason and I put Wine into two Pre-K class computers, and many of the 
Reader Rabbit type of kid's educational games run fine...

It took us about 4 minutes to apt-get wine, and to have the Windows 
discs playing audio and the animated games...

Methinks the lady doth protest too much...

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