[Leaplist] Zimbra crazy awesome

Jason Boxman jasonb at edseek.com
Thu Jul 2 12:50:35 EDT 2009


Jason Boxman wrote:
> I'd given up on finding a graphical client that intuitively handles email and calendaring.  I tried Postbox and Spicebird, but based upon the Thunderbird codebase, but quickly dropped both.

Wow, Zimbra crazy screwed up this message, eh?

So much for sane line wrapping.

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> My biggest negatives so far seem to be

I have to add to this list that the non-nativeness sucked and I ended up 
going back to KMail && Thunderbird yesterday.  In fact, I have an added 
appreciation for both after having used Zimbra Desktop for 4 weeks.

Additionally, ZD doesn't grok IMAP sent, draft, and trash folders, so 
using it for an IMAP client means moving messages into those folders 
from the local filesystem by hand perpetually.

Some of the 1.0 features, like the notebook, are completely broken.  I 
never tried the briefcase.  Not sure it worked.

Multiple attachments are a pain, too, crippled by the fact that it's 
really just a Gecko browser behind the scenes.

Oh, and for some odd reason a ticket outstanding for several years 
states Zimbra only supports 63 tags.  What the !?  What's the point of a 
tagging interface if there's an design limitation preventing you from 
having more than 63 defined?

...

My quest for a universal address book, calendar, and tasks continue. 
Thunderbird with Lightning comes pretty close.  I'm hoping Kontact in 
KDE 4.1 has better support for WebDAV so I can hackily use the CALDAV 
store Lightning uses natively just fine.  In 3.5.9 it forgets WebDAV 
based calendar events.

Maybe I should write a Thunderbird plugin that allows tagging, persisted 
remotely with a CouchDB server or something.

Meh.

> 1) Large resource requirements, predominately due to Java components
> - 250M overhead on my XP box
> - 300M+ on my Linux box
> 2) No TLS support (SSL works, but requires legacy port open on server)
> 3) I can't sort my mail most recent at the bottom; it paginates your mail
> 4) Drafts are always 'unread' for ZCS accounts (not vanilla IMAP)
> - I tend to use my drafts as a dumping ground for files or notes
> - The Briefcase feature in Zimbra likely eliminates that necessity
> 5) Doesn't understand Courier's usage of '.INBOX' as IMAP root
> - Only matters on Courier for ZD's IMAP support
> - Results in dumb looking nesting under 'Inbox' of all subfolders
> - Irrelevant for native ZCS accounts, of course
> 6) Can't send to mailing lists by middle clicking on ml folder
> - Cute kmail feature I shall miss
> 7) I can't manually expire messages via cron script for ZCS accounts
> - find + xargs + rm


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