[Leaplist] Latest Ubuntu version 8.10

[Derek Konigsberg]

On Monday 17 November 2008 9:11:51 am Bryan J. Smith wrote:
> Derek Konigsberg <octo at logicprobe.org> wrote:
> > I just got an HP Compaq 8510w laptop, and tried installing
> > Kubuntu 8.10 on it.  At first it seemed woefully unpolished
> > (have Kubuntu 8.04 on my desktop, and no problems there).
> > But now, apparently due to the classic Linux "kernel of
> > the week" game, 8.10 can't run for very long on
> > this laptop without randomly freezing up.  I guess I'll
> > just have to wait until the next kernel update.  (others
> > have noticed this problem on my laptop model as well)
>
> What are your logs giving you?  Or sar?  Have you considered
> submitting a kdump?  Or just doing a quick profile of one so
> you know what is bringing it down?
>
> BTW, I agree on the "kernel of the week" game.  I had one
> Fedora kernel update that just totally would not boot, even
> after re-creating the initrd.  Comparisons showed the Fedora
> mechanisms created it correctly, the kernel just took issue
> with the ICH9 on my notebook for some reason never seen before.
> The very next update had no issues whatsoever.
>
> The Red Hat kernel team (who virtually does all of the Fedora
> kernel releases, wi
You got so actively side-tracked on the partially unrelated Intel graphics 
chipset rant (the laptop uses nVidia for its GPU), that I think you missed 
the posts where I figured this one out :-)  It was a known issue with the 
wireless chipset driver.  I installed the recommended patch, and it seems to 
have fixed the problem.  Of course that doesn't change my other gripes, but 
at least the laptop stopped locking up.

> Derek Konigsberg <octo at logicprobe.org> wrote:
> > Until then, MS Vista 64-bit has been pretty much flawless,
> > which I can live with because most of what I'm using
> > this laptop for requires Windows.
>
> I can_not_ say the same.  Vista 64-bit has had some issues,
> including _worse_ support of my Intel 5100AGN than Fedora
> (both 32-bit and 64-bit).  Granted, I have a Best Buy "special"
> (literally) Gateway P-7811FX, and they don't even release
> Vista 64-bit fixes (I have to boot XP/Vista 32-bit, which
> did _not_ come with the unit), so I wasn't expecting much.
> But it's rather pathetic how things do not work (let alone
> before I even address SP1 for Word 2007).
There's a reason why I flat-out refuse to buy "consumer-grade crap" computer 
hardware when I have a choice.  I got this laptop from the business products 
line.  There have even been times where I preferred to buy old used 
business-grade hardware off eBay, rather than buy brand-new consumer-grade 
hardware.
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Derek Konigsberg
octo at logicprobe.org
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