[Leaplist] Latest Ubuntu version 8.10
Derek Konigsberg
octo at logicprobe.org
Mon Nov 17 09:08:21 EST 2008
Well, looks like the discussion thread on my laptop got updated:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6194853
Apparently its a "known bug at release time" with the wireless chipset
driver. So I'll try the suggested fix tonight, and hope it goes well.
-Derek
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Richard F. Ostrow Jr. wrote:
>
> <quote who="Steve Litt">
>> On Sunday 16 November 2008 07:01:16 pm Derek Konigsberg wrote:
>>> I just got an HP Compaq 8510w laptop, and tried installing Kubuntu 8.10
>>> on
>>> it. At first it seemed woefully unpolished (have Kubuntu 8.04 on my
>>> desktop, and no problems there). But now, apparently due to the classic
>>> Linux "kernel of the week" game, 8.10 can't run for very long on this
>>> laptop without randomly freezing up.
>>
>> Hi Derek,
>>
>> If you think it's the kernel, why don't you compile your own kernel. Maybe
>> that will change the symptom.
>
> Not likely... usually kernel problems are not due to kernel options, but
> due to bugs introduced in the new kernel. The way to solve kernel problems
> is to either go forward or backwards in the kernel version.
>
>> Also, is it the kernel,
>
> Yes
>
>> or one of the apps,
>
> Impossible - apps don't freeze the system
>
>> or drivers,
>
> possibly... but this would be part of the kernel
>
>> or hardware (as
>> opposed to drivers)?
>
> Not possible - works fine in Windoze, and problems are reflected in other
> people's laptops
>
>> Or is it part of the power saver mode?
>
> Not likely, unless it were to turn the CPU frequency down to 0 for
> whatever reason.
>
>> Why not boot
>> it,
>> not run any apps except X and your desktop, and see if it's still running
>> correctly after 24 hours, or double the current mean time to freeze.
>
> Might help determine if it's a stress-related issue, but it won't have
> anything to do with any given application.
>
>> Try booting Knoppix and see if it freezes after a long time.
>
> ... or anything else with a different kernel version. Better yet, find a
> kernel version that is reported as working with your laptop model, and
> possibly a fine-tuned kernel for your laptop. These are common.
>
>> Oppress the processor with a prime number generator like this:
>>
>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/codecorn/primenumbers/primenumbers.htm#_The_Bit_Array_Improvement
>>
>> Test the hard drive with Smartctl, and the temperature with mbmon.
>>
>> Or, because you're you, why don't you write a simulator for your laptop,
>> on
>> which you can run SunOS 4.0.3c?
>
> ... which would then suffer the same problems that he's suffering due to a
> kernel bug.
>
>
> On another note, I've found that NFS doesn't work properly under 2.6.25-r7
> on some machines... it will cause the filesystem to lock up wherever NFS
> is involved at random points. Forces you to hit your power or reset button
> to recover (normal shutdown not possible due to lack of timeouts and
> recovery mechanisms). The machine I've noted this on was an nForce 750i
> chipset.
>
> The NFS server was a FreeBSD 7.2 machine, the client being described
> above. TCP packets were used instead of UDP to eliminate the possibility
> of dropped packets.
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