[Leaplist] Distro pissing (source: Debian user) -- WAS: RPM Fusion repos now available

[Bryan J. Smith]

On Sat, 11/8/08, Jason Boxman <jasonb at edseek.com> wrote:
> *shrug*
> I've never had an instance of Debian GNU/Linux not Just
> Working (tm) when dealing with packages.  Ever.

Translation:  PISSS ... PISSS ... PISSS ...

> I guess posts like these are why I've never had any
> interest in ever investigating a switch to Fedora.

No one is even suggesting you switch.  What you see here
are Fedora users trying to help one another.  If you do
not use Fedora, no non-technical commentary is really
necessary.

There are countless other users of various distros that
do not feel the need to comment on other distros either.
We're all using our distros and anytime there is a shift,
there is always a period where there are conversion changes.

In this case, it's _not_ even a Fedora Project change.  It's
a 3rd party repo change.

Many LUGs get anti-Debian, anti-Fedora, anti-Gentoo, etc...
labels put on them because users of various distros cannot
even ask questions or discuss changes without some other
distro users coming in and going, "well, I was talking to
Sally the other day, and she _never_ has a problem with
Pinky Color Linux."

> What am I missing?

Why are you "worried" you are "missing" anything?

As someone who also supports Ubuntu, Gentoo, etc... (and
a former Debian maintainer myself), please do _not_ use
a support thread for one distro as an avenue to "distro
piss."  Otherwise, you just add to the marketing non-sense.
If I wanted marketing, I wouldn't have left the commercial
software world.

[ Seriously Jason, this is surprising coming from yourself. ]

Fedora(TM), as a trademark of Red Hat(R), a commerically
traded corporation of $2B+ marketcap and $1B+ in cash,
does not ship some packages for several reasons.  Red Hat(R)
has its reasons, although more things go into Fedora(TM)
regularly, but there are still limits to what its maintainers
will take on and/or what maintainers are allowed into the
project (even if a package is "free").

With that said ...

RPM Fusion is the first effort to try to unify the 3rd
party repositories that ship things that Fedora(TM) does not.
It _just_ opened.  I've already noted several packages
missing.  That will improve although some items from Livna
/ FreshRPMS will not be involved ... ever (because of issues
they do not want to touch, even if they are in Debian Non-
Free).

-- Bryan

P.S.  Some Debian users who tap 3rd party repos and/or Debian
non-Stable may differ with your view.  Debian has its
"guidelines" as well, and some packages do not qualify, and
some 3rd party repos also conflict.  Please don't add to this,
as most of us do not go "out of our way" to "interject non-
technical distro pissing" into "technical discussions" on
other distros.


-- 
Bryan J Smith          Professional, Technical Annoyance
b.j.smith at ieee.org    http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith
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I don't have a "favorite Linux distro."  I use, develop
and support community efforts, often built around Linux.
Technology and solutions are my focus, not dragging in
assumptions, marketing and other concepts which dominate
non-community developed software, which I left long ago.


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