[Leaplist] Linux Advocasy: What they'll miss

[Fred Moore]

Derek Konigsberg wrote:
> On Tue, 6 May 2008, Damien McKenna wrote:
>> On May 6, 2008, at 10:11 AM, patrick wrote:
>>> Tons of new folks are attending install fests after some horrific
>>> experiences with Microsoft, bad things like not knowing they need to
>>> defrag often, fully format and re-install at least 3 times each year,
>>> and the constant barrage of adware bots, exploits, trojans, worms.
>>
>> I tend to reinstall my wife's machine every 18 months, it just gets
>> too gunked up with the different software I test out on it, not too
>> bad really. And we don't have problems with adware, exploits, trojans
>> or worms either.
>
> What's with this?  Every rabit Linux advocate *assumes beyond the
> shadow of a doubt* that *every* Windows machine *must* have horrible
> problems of being gunked up with all that crap.
>
> However, I have *never*, I repeat, *never*, had those problems on
> *any* of the Windows machines I've regularly used.
>
> I seriously think the problem is *not* Windows itself.  Rather, I
> think the problem is careless "clicking on every stupid thing" and
> "installing every stupid add-on" through the app known as MS Internet
> Explorer.  Its the only browser that practically self-infects itself,
> and makes it very easy for a dumb user (not us) to crap up their
> systems by browsing to shady websites.  Oh, and MS Outlook, to some
> extent as well.  (though I've never had problems with MS Outlook in a
> business environment, which is the only place I've ever actually used
> it.)
>
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How can everyone else enter your world?  I contend the problem *is*
windows itself.  No matter how crappy any application is if it can
corrupt the OS then that is the underlying problem.  And BTW IE is and
embedded part of the operating system, (thats what so many law suites
are about)  as is every other shared DLL application distributed...  You
should be able to click any web site out there safely.   As for stupid
people who install crap from all over the place again.. an OS that out
of the box has no security to stop this crap is broken.    A friend is a
perfect example.  He and his wife never install anything.   But I
constantly assist him as his kids trash it..   its just a plan broken
security model.. 

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