[Leaplist] Slightly OT: We're not dealing with amateurs here.

[pberry2]

Steve Litt wrote:
> On Friday 11 January 2008 01:35, John Simpson wrote:
>> On 2008-01-10, at 0247, Phil Barnett wrote:
>>> Only here because we'll have to deal with it in our everyday lives...
>>>
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&t
>>> axonomyName=security&articleId=9056378&taxonomyId=17&intsrc=kc_top
>> amateurs... meaning the talented but misguided authors of the rootkit,
>> or the "geniuses" who write anti-virus programs which don't bother to
>> check boot blocks?
>>
>> viruses have been installing themselves in boot records for YEARS...
>> why is it news when a rootkit starts doing it?
>>
>> shame on you, symantec, mcafee, AVG, kaspersky, sophos, and all of the
>> rest.
>>
>> and shame on you, microsoft, for writing such a shoddy excuse for an
>> "operating system" to begin with.
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't I write a similar rootkit for Linux, 
> always assuming I could trick the user into running it as root the first 
> time?
> 
> I could write a Linux program that:
> 
> A: Installs the binary badguy program in some inode or blank part of a disk
> B: Puts a jump to the badguy program in the code part of the boot block
> 
> The badguy program implements the rootkit, or at least a way to get in without 
> a password, and then acts as a bootloader for whatever was loaded by the boot 
> block before the infection.
> 
> I'm not saying Windows is a good OS, but I'm not sure the existance of a boot 
> block rootkit proves Windows is shoddy.
> 
> SteveT 
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Steve:
Sometimes we give people who have evil intentions the benefit of all the
compassion and doubt that is possible for a nation of people who seem to
try to adhere to Christian standards.

Our Justice System will coddle pedaphiles, holding them the 'innocent
until proven guilty" on their second or fifth heinous criminal enterprise.

The same holds true for Microsoft, and others, who prey upon the
innocent, in effect stealing from all of us.

It is nice of you to try to insert some 'balance' in the argument that
Microsoft is not inherently evil, and has been the base provider of all
that is evil on the Internet.

I call it as I see it, and the root of all evil on the World Wide Web is
the greedy, stomp-on-the-smaller-guy-monopolist Microsoft Corporation
who promotes, or, at the very least tolerates, over a Million Microsoft
Virus/Worms/bots/rootkits/exploits for more than 30 years!

You and I know that if Microsoft Corporation made automobiles, hammers,
or hairbrushes, OSHA would be all over them for the problems caused by
their products.

Why give Microsoft a 'pass' when the products obviously are the biggest
POS scam-con game on the planet?  Shoddy?  Planned obsolescence and poor
competency are the goal of Microsoft!

There is no other explanation, unless one does believe that Microsoft
was integral in voter fraud on a national scale, in collusion with Diebold!

The 'badguy' is Microsoft, because Microsoft products are full & open
invitations to crack and to break into the systems and networks of
innocent persons and the 'competition'.

Microsoft is EVIL and will corrupt your wife and children!  When a thief
enters your abode in the dark of night, he is there to kill you.  Deadly
force must be exercised.  Microsoft must die.

Run away to GNU/Linux, where warm, loving penguins will party with you,
and offer good times in a safe environment!

I am converting evil to good, one computer at a time, with the LiveCDroms.