[Leaplist] Fwd: Re: Can kids volunteer for install fest on Saturday?

[Fred Moore]

Gavin..  this has worked just fine for years.   If we are going to post
it here why would we need the announce list.   But then again I have
absolutely no problem with receiving it on both lists. 

The announce list sends out about 8 emails a month..  one each day for 4
days before each meeting as a reminder. 

My vote is to  keep the announce list..   and if we want to cross post..
thats fine with me. 
But then on second thought why would we want to archive the
announcements which would happen if we sent them out on this list..  so
perhaps we shouldn't

But on second thought I guess it would not hurt to archive it.
But then I wonder if we have anyone who only uses only the announce
list..  and doesn't monitor this list. perhaps we should do both..  or
not.. oh hell  lets vote on it at tomorrows meeting.  Did we announce a
board meeting at every installfest?  Most likely it might have been
announced the announce list..

But I thought everyone knew that the install fest is the 1st Saturday of
every month.
and the meeting is always the 3rd Thursday of the month..   Unless its a
holiday and then we announce a change on the  "announce list" ..   oops
lets change that.. if you aren't on the announce list you would not get
the announcement about the meeting change..

Maybee we need to post this info to both lists.. ..   or not.. Fred


Gavin Baker wrote:
> Phil Barnett wrote:
> | On Friday 29 February 2008 08:35:28 pm you wrote:
> |
> |> We know that?
> |>
> |> I hope you'll take this as constructive criticism rather than
> |> nitpicking, but I don't recall having seen a single email to the list
> |> about it. Maybe it's on the Web site, or it's regularly-scheduled,
> but I
> |> can't see the harm in posting an announcement to the list before each
> |> event. That announcement should contain the basic information about the
> |> event (when, where, etc.), which this email didn't.
> |>
> |> I have met several people over the past few months who mentioned they
> |> use Linux. I ask if they've ever been to one of the LUGs in the area,
> |> and they all say no. For that to change will take better communication,
> |> so more people know that the group exists and what it's doing.
> |>
> |> If you want help with that or ideas, feel free to email me off-list.
> |
> | We have a web site that announces the dates of the meetings and
> installfests
> | at the top of the page and a mailing list that contains only emails
> from an
> | automated system that can warn you in advance of any meeting or
> installfest.
> |
> | http://www.leap-cf.org
> |
> | http://leap-cf.org/mailinglist.php3Gavin Baker wrote:
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>> Phil Barnett wrote:
>> | On Friday 29 February 2008 08:35:28 pm you wrote:
>> |
>> |> We know that?
>> |>
>> |> I hope you'll take this as constructive criticism rather than
>> |> nitpicking, but I don't recall having seen a single email to the list
>> |> about it. Maybe it's on the Web site, or it's regularly-scheduled,
>> but I
>> |> can't see the harm in posting an announcement to the list before each
>> |> event. That announcement should contain the basic information
>> about the
>> |> event (when, where, etc.), which this email didn't.
>> |>
>> |> I have met several people over the past few months who mentioned they
>> |> use Linux. I ask if they've ever been to one of the LUGs in the area,
>> |> and they all say no. For that to change will take better
>> communication,
>> |> so more people know that the group exists and what it's doing.
>> |>
>> |> If you want help with that or ideas, feel free to email me off-list.
>> |
>> | We have a web site that announces the dates of the meetings and
>> installfests
>> | at the top of the page and a mailing list that contains only emails
>> from an
>> | automated system that can warn you in advance of any meeting or
>> installfest.
>> |
>> | http://www.leap-cf.org
>> |
>> | http://leap-cf.org/mailinglist.php3
>> |
>> | And, most specifically,
>> http://leap-cf.org/mailinglist.php3?list=announce
>> |
>> | I depend on these things to tell me what day of the week it is. I
>> would forget
>> | meetings if I were not a member. I suggest that anyone who wants
>> fair Gavin Baker wrote:
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>>> Phil Barnett wrote:
>>> | On Friday 29 February 2008 08:35:28 pm you wrote:
>>> |
>>> |> We know that?
>>> |>
>>> |> I hope you'll take this as constructive criticism rather than
>>> |> nitpicking, but I don't recall having seen a single email to the
>>> list
>>> |> about it. Maybe it's on the Web site, or it's
>>> regularly-scheduled, but I
>>> |> can't see the harm in posting an announcement to the list before
>>> each
>>> |> event. That announcement should contain the basic information
>>> about the
>>> |> event (when, where, etc.), which this email didn't.
>>> |>
>>> |> I have met several people over the past few months who mentioned
>>> they
>>> |> use Linux. I ask if they've ever been to one of the LUGs in the
>>> area,
>>> |> and they all say no. For that to change will take better
>>> communication,
>>> |> so more people know that the group exists and what it's doing.
>>> |>
>>> |> If you want help with that or ideas, feel free to email me off-list.
>>> |
>>> | We have a web site that announces the dates of the meetings and
>>> installfests
>>> | at the top of the page and a mailing list that contains only emails
>>> from an
>>> | automated system that can warn you in advance of any meeting or
>>> installfest.
>>> |
>>> | http://www.leap-cf.org
>>> |
>>> | http://leap-cf.org/mailinglist.php3
>>> |
>>> | And, most specifically,
>>> http://leap-cf.org/mailinglist.php3?list=announce
>>> |
>>> | I depend on these things to tell me what day of the week it is. I
>>> would forget
>>> | meetings if I were not a member. I suggest that anyone who wants fair
>>> warning
>>> | of the meetings and installfests join this mailing list. It's a
>>> gentle
>>> | reminder that doesn't have any other traffic.
>>>
>>> If I'm already on this list, is there a reason why I should need to
>>> join
>>> a separate list to receive event announcements?
>>>
>>> There's no harm in having separate discussion / announcement lists
>>> -- it
>>> can actually be good, for people who prefer low traffic. But
>>> announcements should be posted to both; if I'm on the discuss list,
>>> I'll
>>> get announcements there without having to join another list.
>>>
>>> Also, I find the announce list pretty useless. The subject lines are
>>> utterly non-informative, and the email body similarly contains no real
>>> information. There's no reason all the necessary information of an
>>> event
>>> shouldn't be in the email, so it's all in one place. (It's bad to
>>> presume the reader already knows where/when the event is, and it's also
>>> bad to make them check the Web site to find out.) And personally, I
>>> don't want to receive 4 emails reminding me of the same event; one
>>> email, a day or two before the event, is sufficient. I would expect
>>> most
>>> people are this way: of all the other mailing lists I read, no other
>>> posts 4 reminders, one day after the other, for the same event.
>>>
>>> If there are folks who want to get 4 reminders, keep the announce list
>>> as-is for them, but send 1 informative announcement for each event
>>> here.
>>>
>>> | Do you think we need more? If so, what would you suggest in addition
>>> to that?
>>>
>>> Besides making the announcements informative and posting them here:
>>> * An RSS feed for announcements
>>> * Posting announcements in the topic of the IRC channel
>>>
>>> There are also a number of ways to publicize events to the general
>>> public:
>>> * Send announcements to local media, e.g.:
>>> http://wiki.floridacreatives.com/index.php/Orlando_media
>>> * Post on online calendars such as Craigslist, Upcoming, Eventful,
>>> icflorida.com, folioflorida.com
>>> * Post on social networking sites such as Facebook (I saw Kevin did
>>> this
>>> for the Feb. meeting)
>>> * Create blog badges for people to link to LEAP
>>> * Post announcements on related mailing lists
>>>
>>> - --
>>> Gavin Baker
>>> http://www.gavinbaker.com/
>>> gavin at gavinbaker.com
>>>
>>> above the harbor
>>> an autumn moon tonight.
>>> just that.
>>> ~    L.A. Davidson
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>>
>> -- 
>> free as linux, http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
>> Fred/WD8KNI
>>     
>>
>> warning
>> | of the meetings and installfests join this mailing list. It's a gentle
>> | reminder that doesn't have any other traffic.
>>
>> If I'm already on this list, is there a reason why I should need to join
>> a separate list to receive event announcements?
>>
>> There's no harm in having separate discussion / announcement lists -- it
>> can actually be good, for people who prefer low traffic. But
>> announcements should be posted to both; if I'm on the discuss list, I'll
>> get announcements there without having to join another list.
>>
>> Also, I find the announce list pretty useless. The subject lines are
>> utterly non-informative, and the email body similarly contains no real
>> information. There's no reason all the necessary information of an event
>> shouldn't be in the email, so it's all in one place. (It's bad to
>> presume the reader already knows where/when the event is, and it's also
>> bad to make them check the Web site to find out.) And personally, I
>> don't want to receive 4 emails reminding me of the same event; one
>> email, a day or two before the event, is sufficient. I would expect most
>> people are this way: of all the other mailing lists I read, no other
>> posts 4 reminders, one day after the other, for the same event.
>>
>> If there are folks who want to get 4 reminders, keep the announce list
>> as-is for them, but send 1 informative announcement for each event here.
>>
>> | Do you think we need more? If so, what would you suggest in addition
>> to that?
>>
>> Besides making the announcements informative and posting them here:
>> * An RSS feed for announcements
>> * Posting announcements in the topic of the IRC channel
>>
>> There are also a number of ways to publicize events to the general
>> public:
>> * Send announcements to local media, e.g.:
>> http://wiki.floridacreatives.com/index.php/Orlando_media
>> * Post on online calendars such as Craigslist, Upcoming, Eventful,
>> icflorida.com, folioflorida.com
>> * Post on social networking sites such as Facebook (I saw Kevin did this
>> for the Feb. meeting)
>> * Create blog badges for people to link to LEAP
>> * Post announcements on related mailing lists
>>
>> - --
>> Gavin Baker
>> http://www.gavinbaker.com/
>> gavin at gavinbaker.com
>>
>> above the harbor
>> an autumn moon tonight.
>> just that.
>> ~    L.A. Davidson
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>
>
> -- 
> free as linux, http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
> Fred/WD8KNI
>   
>
> |
> | And, most specifically,
> http://leap-cf.org/mailinglist.php3?list=announce
> |
> | I depend on these things to tell me what day of the week it is. I
> would forget
> | meetings if I were not a member. I suggest that anyone who wants fair
> warning
> | of the meetings and installfests join this mailing list. It's a gentle
> | reminder that doesn't have any other traffic.
>
> If I'm already on this list, is there a reason why I should need to join
> a separate list to receive event announce
>
> There's no harm in having separate discussion / announcement lists -- it
> can actually be good, for people who prefer low traffic. But
> announcements should be posted to both; if I'm on the discuss list, I'll
> get announcements there without having to join another list.
>
> Also, I find the announce list pretty useless. The subject lines are
> utterly non-informative, and the email body similarly contains no real
> information. There's no reason all the necessary information of an event
> shouldn't be in the email, so it's all in one place. (It's bad to
> presume the reader already knows where/when the event is, and it's also
> bad to make them check the Web site to find out.) And personally, I
> don't want to receive 4 emails reminding me of the same event; one
> email, a day or two before the event, is sufficient. I would expect most
> people are this way: of all the other mailing lists I read, no other
> posts 4 reminders, one day after the other, for the same event.
>
> If there are folks who want to get 4 reminders, keep the announce list
> as-is for them, but send 1 informative announcement for each event here.
>
> | Do you think we need more? If so, what would you suggest in addition
> to that?
>
> Besides making the announcements informative and posting them here:
> * An RSS feed for announcements
> * Posting announcements in the topic of the IRC channel
>
> There are also a number of ways to publicize events to the general public:
> * Send announcements to local media, e.g.:
> http://wiki.floridacreatives.com/index.php/Orlando_media
> * Post on online calendars such as Craigslist, Upcoming, Eventful,
> icflorida.com, folioflorida.com
> * Post on social networking sites such as Facebook (I saw Kevin did this
> for the Feb. meeting)
> * Create blog badges for people to link to LEAP
> * Post announcements on related mailing lists
>
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