[Leaplist] iptablesROCKS.org

[John Simpson]

On 2007-11-07, at 1333, patrick wrote:
> Fuzzy Conner wrote:
>>>> Yes, this is it, the difinitive IPTABLES website...
>>>> http://iptablesrocks.org/
>>
>> Another leap member's recent post about that site and/or its author:
>> http://lists.leap-cf.org/pipermail/leaplist/2007-October/002747.html
>>
>> Thought it might add a bit of perspective....
>
> Thanks, and I did read that about qmailrocks, and wonder that, if it  
> is
> so incorrect, why doesn't someone challenge it?  A competitive wiki
> warning folks to beware, while setting the truth down as fact, with
> references, would help us a lot out there!!!

think about something- if you're looking at a web site written by  
"bob" which says one thing, and another site written by "frank" which  
says "bob's an idiot, do this instead", and you don't know anything  
about either person, who are you going to believe?

believe me, i've been dealing with this for several years now. the  
real problem is that eric (the author of the *rocks web sites) doesn't  
have time to maintain the sites. he also doesn't know qmail as well as  
some other people do (i.e. myself), and because he isn't taking an  
active interest in the sites, it's rather pointless to try and send  
him updates, because they'll never find the site anyway.

this is why, if you join the qmailrocks mailing list, you'll find that  
i'm the one who answers more questions than anybody, because most  
"qmailrocks users" have figured out how woefully out-of-date the  
qmailrocks stuff is, and upgraded to newer versions of everything,  
including my combined patch.

with that said, i'm not going to put up a page saying that qmailrocks  
is garbage, because i don't think it is. i think it's a good idea, but  
it's one which hasn't been developed correctly. if eric were to take  
the time and fix the problems, or at least give somebody else access  
to do it, it could be a great resource.

there's also the fact that i like eric as a person- i plan to stop in  
atlanta (where he lives) and meet him in person the next time i drive  
up to tennessee to visit with my brother (which probably won't happen  
until next year, he's in iraq right now and isn't due to rotate home  
until next october.)

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