[Leaplist] Brighthouse cable hook up

William A. Mahaffey III wam at HiWAAY.net
Wed Jul 25 09:04:50 EDT 2007


Hank Lambert wrote:

>That's interesting about RFC 3330. Being I support Micro$oft computers, most
>of my official training is in Micro$oft. Needless to say, in my classes,
>Micro$oft has no problem declaring that that address range is reserved for
>them. I also didn't know that Linux also provides an address from that range
>if it cannot get an address. Always fun learning the truth.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: leaplist-bounces at leap-cf.org [mailto:leaplist-bounces at leap-cf.org] On
>Behalf Of John Simpson
>Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:00 PM
>To: This is the Leap Main List
>Subject: Re: [Leaplist] Brighthouse cable hook up
>
>On 2007-07-23, at 2112, patrick wrote:
>  
>
>>Danny W. Burdick wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>"Ifconfig" gives you back a valid ip for eth0 ?
>>>      
>>>
>>Yes, it brings back, (relayed to me tonight, via telephone from
>>Dianna:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
>>>          inet addr:169.254.119.15  Bcast:169.254.0.0  Mask: 
>>>255.255.0.0
>>>      
>>>
>
>most linux distros will automatically assign a 169.254.x.x address to an
>interface if it can't get an IP address through any other means.
>
>there was a comment about 169.254.x.x being a "microsoft thing". this is not
>the case- usage of 169.254.x.x addresses is defined in RFC 3330. the only
>reason it became associated with microsoft is that nobody else had really
>implemented it on any reasonable scale until microsoft did- and that's
>because most non-windoze machines were being built as servers and therefore
>always needed static IP addresses.
>
>the idea behind it is that if there is no DHCP server on a given network
>segment, the driver will choose a 169.254.x.x address at random, send out a
>"ping" to see if anybody else answers for that address, and if not, it will
>start using that address. most people had never seen this until it was
>implemented in windoze, so in many peoples' minds this is a windoze thing.
>
>so what this tells me is that there is no DHCP server available to give this
>linux machine an IP address.
>
>is there a router between the cable modem and the computer? if so, check the
>settings on that router to make sure it's running a DHCP server. if not, i'm
>sure you know where to get a copy of ipcop...
>
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M$FT doesn't have 169.254.xxx.xxx reserved for anything, it's 1 of the 
std. 'bogon'/LAN address ranges, see the following:

http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html

http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-dd.html#dd-route-agg

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