[Leaplist] help with adding software

["pberry2" at cfl.rr.com]

I see that you now focus upon my posts, and target my data, as if you 
were a fly buzzing over my fecal piles.

I read and converse with many sources, emags, and I read extensively. 

  You could do likewise, and enlighten everyone with what you glean, 
instead of continuing to flit and buzz over mine. 

There are many applications that run on OSX and also run in GNU/Linux.  
The secrets are a wonder to behold, but, go to http://sourceforge.net 
and see some of them.  About 30% are ported.  Then, there are the many 
Microsoft apps. that run better in Mac OSX, having been ported.

 The caveat is that they run differently, hence the results differ as 
Microsoft Office users discovered. 
Yes, Open Office is there for Mac OS X, GNU/Linux, and MS, without any 
discrimination, as is the course for Free Open Source Software. 

Damien McKenna wrote:
> On 1/31/07 10:09 AM, "pberry2"@cfl.rr.com wrote:
>   
>>>    Is there a way to make kubuntu act like a windows, or os10 program,
>>> at least for the purpose of running a specific program?
>>>       
>
> You can't run OSX on Linux, but through the use of Wine
> (http://www.winehq.org/) or CrossOver Office (http://www.codeweavers.com/)
> you can run many Windows applications. 
>
>   
>> Some applications run better, as even Windos XP runs better and faster
>> in an emulator on Linux, than it runs native, according to many reviewers
>> in the press. 
>>     
>
> Care to back up your claim with some references?
>
> If you take a clean install of Windows XP and then run the same
> configuration within an emulation layer on another OS the emulated XP will
> be slower than what it would natively be.  Obviously if you run it emulated
> on a 3ghz machine it'll be faster than running natively on a 1ghz machine.
>   

Crap.  Show us your sources for that one!  When you read the magazine 
and on-line reviews of the
emulators that run Microsoft OSes in a Linux emulator, they often 
mention their surprise at the benchmarks, that demonstrate the speed of 
execution of Microsoft when run on a GNU/Linux distro.   It is so common 
knowledge, it is almost a cliche.

>   
>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>> Basics of the Unix Clones:
>>
>> GNU/Linux is a clone of Unix, the Linux kernel written by Linus Torvalds
>> and released August 25, 1991.
>>     
>
> Just for clarification, the Linux kernel was written by Linus as an
> alternative to the commercial Minux kernel, itself a clone of AT&T's
> original UNIX.
>
>   
Minix was a non functional training aid for Unix, as Unix was protected, 
so Universities had to use something that could serve as an example, 
without infringement.  Since, Minix has begun to develop more full 
functionality as was announced by the author.
That wiki probably needs updating to reflect the truths.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix
>
>   
>> BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) was released by Berkeley UC in
>> 1984, as 386BSD.
>>     
>
> BSD itself is older than that. 
>   
Again, who gives a crap about something 'older', when the statement is a 
fact, on the Berkeley UC page itself, as re-iterated in BSD histories.
BSD released by Berkeley in 1984 is 386BSD.  From that, flowed Free BSD 
and derivatives, later, and http://pcbsd.org is the latest of which you 
should be aware.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD
>
>   
>> The 'Nixs are concurrent multi-processing, multi-tasking OSes.
>>     
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system
>
>   
>> Microsoft's 9 versions of Vista, several versions of XP, ME, 98,95,3.x
>> and DOS are consecutive processing systems.
>>     
>
> Incorrect.
>   

Again, screw that because they function as consecutive processing 
systems, NOT as concurrent Unix systems, so if you desire the limelight, 
then you can take over, Mr. bigshot, and tell some noobs your OCD 
version of the history of the world.
> Windows 3.x: cooperative multi-tasking of 16bit or 32bit apps.
> Windows 9x/ME: preemptive multi-tasking of 32bit apps, cooperative with
> 16bit apps.
> Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista: preemptive multi-tasking of 32bit apps, 16bit
> support dropped with IIRC Win2000.
>
>   
For the purposes of this discussion about emulation on a Linux platform, 
that has little applicability, except to a win troll who seems to suffer 
OCD.
Next, you will be advocating Microsoft, and that they haven't lost over 
400 lawsuits for theft, cheating, failure to comply with contracts, and 
the multiple felonies on several continents.

Microsoft really sucks and screws up the great high speed processing of 
modern technology, so, witness the mass migration of embedded devices, 
science projects, colleges, state public education systems, banking, ad 
infinitum to the 'Nixs. 


>> If you open multiple windows in any Microsoft system, you certainly
>> cannot open what the 'Nixs can run, which is  200 windows in each of 20
>> desktops, all at the same time!
>>     
>
>   
Which is a PROBLEM in MICROSOFT systems, when you have two system compared!
> That is a memory issue and GUI issue, not a multi-tasking issue.
>
>   
So, Microsoft systems ALSO have trouble with Memory management, plus 
can't run a GUI!  Thanks!
Sources?
>> And, as one window executes it's processes, all others wait their turn,
>> in the Microsoft environment.
>>     
>
> And do you really think that the Linux kernel is able to magically run
> multiple tasks simultaneously on a von Neumann architecture?
>
>   
>> On systems that process aaat 3 Gigahertz, that might not matter to some
>> folks, who haven't experienced the speed and efficiency of a true
>> multi-processing concurrent environment,
>>     
>
> <yawn>  If your GUI has lower overheads then it'll run faster.
>   
So, the Microsoft system ALSO has high GUI overhead and runs S L O W E R !

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