[Leaplist] "Vista" laptops boot PCLinuxOS- beta but, NOT -p93!

[Carter Manucy]

Damien McKenna wrote:
> On 1/30/07 3:31 PM, "pberry2"@cfl.rr.com wrote:
>   
>> I think I was reading about the VISTA DRM requirements being imposed
>> upon video chip makers so Blu-ray and HD-DVD won't play, on those
>> computers, except when run in a Microsoft environment!
>>     
>
> The Vista DRM has nothing to do with being able to play (or not) a Blu-Ray
> or HD-DVD on another OS.  To be able to play those video discs on a Linux
> machine you'll need a player, and due to the DRM & co-mingled code you most
> likely won't be able to run Windows Media Player through Wine, it'll
> probably take a native player.
>   
Actually, it's highly unlikely that you will ever be able to play HD-DVD 
or Blueray on Linux.  With these standards, there has to be a licensed 
player with licensed keys in order to be able to decrypt the data on the 
disc.  This isn't like libcss, or the completely broken CSS encryption 
on DVD's.  This is AES 128-bit encryption on the media that has had more 
time, money and effort spent on it than I care to think about it.

As an aside, if M$ had just put a fraction of the effort into securing 
the OS as they did in DRM controls, we might actually have a secure 
operating system from them! 

But this is getting off-track of the original topic.  I can talk for 
days on this fsck'ed thing called DRM when it comes to HD-DVD/Blueray, 
but I think that belongs on LEAP-BS.  I believe in this case, terms are 
getting mangled together and misunderstood.  I believe the "DRM" in this 
case is actually a bad reference to "TPM" (Trusted Platform Module) 
which was an initiative put forth by Intel in order to be able to do 
just as Patrick was initially thinking - keep you from running anything 
but what they want you to run on their systems.

My outside opinion on why PC Linux didn't boot on these particular 
machines probably has more to do with the desire to get away from legacy 
IDE interconnects on newer motherboards, such at the Jaton CD-ROM 
interface that's popping up on newer motherboards - and a royal pain in 
my butt on occasion.  It isn't supported by most mainstream distros at 
the moment, but is supported (IIRC) by the latest kernel, so it will (as 
usual) be supported soon by 'everyone'.

-Carter