[Leaplist] Patent reform vs terminating Intellectual Property laws [was Re: FYI, evidence of realities of IP]

[Bill Anderson]

On Tuesday 23 January 2007 15:37, Kyle Gonzales wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 13:01 -0700, Bill Anderson wrote:
> > Even then he didn't take something from you. He may have cheated you out
> > of something, but it was still not theft. That's why it's called
> > *cheating* to copy another's  answers (assuming they are getting the
> > right answers!), not *stealing*.
>
> Cheating someone out of something is theft.  
More dodging of the question? Out of what, EXACTLY?

> Trying to redefine it does 
> not help.  Work was done for a purpose, and you stole that work for your
> own purpose.

Again, what was TAKEN from you?


> I do not understand this assault on the rights of those to protect their
> intellectual property.  If Evil Proprietary Company X appropriated Linux
> code into evil proprietary application without abiding by the GPL, you
> would be screaming at the top of your lungs for the IP laws which give
> legal recourse.
>
> Or is it ok for, say, Microsoft to take all Linux code and appropriate
> it into closed-source software?  
I'd like to know how much straw you've got piled up so I can have an idea of 
how many strawmen you intend to build, please. Nobody has made any comments 
on the ethical, moral, or personal responsibility issues, jsut the proper use 
of the terms theft and steal that have been in use and understood for over a 
thousand years.

> Because that is what you are saying... 
No, that is your man of straw. I am saying he didn't *steal* something *from* 
someone. However, he would be in violation of a contract, which is a 
different matter. Still wrong, but not theft. Or is theft the only bad thing 
in your world and you thus have to define everything as theft?

Are you interested in debate or in just personal attacks? It's a fair 
question, will you answer that one at least?

Cheers,
Bill