[Leaplist] 1.52 billion

[Ray Brunkow]

Jim Hartley wrote:
> Looks like the (co-)owners of mp3 aren't exactly coming up smelling 
> like roses on this one either, although if they manage to gouge M$ and 
> then settle back and leave everyone else alone I'd be on their side.
>
No, that is bad no matter what.  If MS paid for it, then they should not 
have to pay again.  Now as if i stated MS has not been paying fees, then 
by all means burn them hard.  The bigger problem is not if Altec-Lansing 
chooses to NOT pursue others or not, it is the legal precedence that it 
sets for OTHER companies to follow.
> Anyway, in the spirit of boycotting closed standards, what is the 
> easiest tool for converting (legally) downloaded mp3 files to Ogg?
>
> Jim Hartley
>
> pberry2 at cfl.rr.com wrote:
>> Ray Brunkow wrote:
>>> Damien McKenna wrote:
>>>> On 2/23/07 4:43 AM, Fred Moore wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>> It looks like this also appeared in the New York Times..  so is 
>>>>> most likely
>>>>> legit.. 
>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/microsoft-slapped-with-1-52-billion-payout- 
>>>>>
>>>>> in-mp3-suit/
>>>>>     
>>>>
>>>> The confusing part is that the Fraunhoffer labs alleged for years 
>>>> that they
>>>> were the legal IP holders and that all licensors had to go through 
>>>> them, now
>>>> Lucent is saying otherwise and generally looking to cause some major
>>>> problems for most of the industry.
>>>>
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>>> >From what I understand of this case, Fraunhoffer DOES own the 
>>> rights, but Altec-Lucent now owns them as well as Bell, the 2 
>>> founders/creators of the MP3 format.
>>>
>>> What it looks like to me is Altec-Lucent is losing money fast and 
>>> they see this as a way to inject cash fast (er) then they can earn 
>>> it.  I do not know if MS stopped paying for the license or if there 
>>> is more to it, but this bothers me deeply.
>>>
>>> I know MS is known for NOT paying for technologies and for stealing 
>>> them on more then one occasion, but if MS really has paid for the 
>>> "rights" to use the MP3 codec, then that should be the end of it, 
>>> unless as i stated, MS has failed to continue to pay per some 
>>> agreement with Fraunhoffer and thus they do owe said amount.
>>>
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>> The lawyers know something, and the judge will make the decision, 
>> unless they settle, prior to a ruling.
>>
>> I have turned 60 years of age, and now, I finally realized how 
>> trivial is it all, that I have no input or control over.  I can only 
>> continue to avoid getting mugged in a dark alley by Microsoft.
>> So, the only thing that I can do  is  try to promote GNU/Linux, 
>> because everyone should exercise their Rights of personal freedom to 
>> use anything, or any tool, or any material as  they please as long as 
>> it does not intrude upon the rights of others.
>>
>> Microsoft was multiple convicted, on several continents, and twice in 
>> the USA, for felony acts against others.  Infringement is one such 
>> felony act.
>> Microsoft is a multiple convicted felon and pirate, proven on over 
>> 400 lawsuits in the USA.
>>
>> I do not deal with felons, as they do not change, nor, reform.  
>> Microsoft will mug us again, given the chance!  Look at the price 
>> structure for Vista!  The Ultimate Business Install pack is $399.00 
>> here, but, in Britain, is priced at 399 British Pounds, and the 
>> equivalent value, in Australia, NZ, and elsewhere!  Tons of hardware 
>> doesn't work, and some speculate Microsoft once again "released a 
>> beta test upon the public".  It is indicative of that corporation,  
>> as it is as  bloated and sluggish as is  Microsoft.
>>
>> Microsoft has two employees on the Parole board, and still has to go 
>> for two more years of probation, extended by the majority vote of 
>> it's own employees on the SPECIAL  DOJ Parole Board!  They agreed to 
>> abide in the "Future" with the rules of software composure and 
>> distribution.  That lasted a short while!
>>
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Raymond L. Brunkow
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