[Leaplist] 1.52 billion

[Jim Hartley]

Looks like the (co-)owners of mp3 aren't exactly coming up smelling like 
roses on this one either, although if they manage to gouge M$ and then 
settle back and leave everyone else alone I'd be on their side.

Anyway, in the spirit of boycotting closed standards, what is the 
easiest tool for converting (legally) downloaded mp3 files to Ogg?

Jim Hartley

pberry2 at cfl.rr.com wrote:
> Ray Brunkow wrote:
>> Damien McKenna wrote:
>>> On 2/23/07 4:43 AM, Fred Moore wrote:
>>>  
>>>> It looks like this also appeared in the New York Times..  so is 
>>>> most likely
>>>> legit.. 
>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/microsoft-slapped-with-1-52-billion-payout- 
>>>>
>>>> in-mp3-suit/
>>>>     
>>>
>>> The confusing part is that the Fraunhoffer labs alleged for years 
>>> that they
>>> were the legal IP holders and that all licensors had to go through 
>>> them, now
>>> Lucent is saying otherwise and generally looking to cause some major
>>> problems for most of the industry.
>>>
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>> >From what I understand of this case, Fraunhoffer DOES own the 
>> rights, but Altec-Lucent now owns them as well as Bell, the 2 
>> founders/creators of the MP3 format.
>>
>> What it looks like to me is Altec-Lucent is losing money fast and 
>> they see this as a way to inject cash fast (er) then they can earn 
>> it.  I do not know if MS stopped paying for the license or if there 
>> is more to it, but this bothers me deeply.
>>
>> I know MS is known for NOT paying for technologies and for stealing 
>> them on more then one occasion, but if MS really has paid for the 
>> "rights" to use the MP3 codec, then that should be the end of it, 
>> unless as i stated, MS has failed to continue to pay per some 
>> agreement with Fraunhoffer and thus they do owe said amount.
>>
>> -- 
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> The lawyers know something, and the judge will make the decision, 
> unless they settle, prior to a ruling.
>
> I have turned 60 years of age, and now, I finally realized how trivial 
> is it all, that I have no input or control over.  I can only continue 
> to avoid getting mugged in a dark alley by Microsoft.
> So, the only thing that I can do  is  try to promote GNU/Linux, 
> because everyone should exercise their Rights of personal freedom to 
> use anything, or any tool, or any material as  they please as long as 
> it does not intrude upon the rights of others.
>
> Microsoft was multiple convicted, on several continents, and twice in 
> the USA, for felony acts against others.  Infringement is one such 
> felony act.
> Microsoft is a multiple convicted felon and pirate, proven on over 400 
> lawsuits in the USA.
>
> I do not deal with felons, as they do not change, nor, reform.  
> Microsoft will mug us again, given the chance!  Look at the price 
> structure for Vista!  The Ultimate Business Install pack is $399.00 
> here, but, in Britain, is priced at 399 British Pounds, and the 
> equivalent value, in Australia, NZ, and elsewhere!  Tons of hardware 
> doesn't work, and some speculate Microsoft once again "released a beta 
> test upon the public".  It is indicative of that corporation,  as it 
> is as  bloated and sluggish as is  Microsoft.
>
> Microsoft has two employees on the Parole board, and still has to go 
> for two more years of probation, extended by the majority vote of it's 
> own employees on the SPECIAL  DOJ Parole Board!  They agreed to abide 
> in the "Future" with the rules of software composure and 
> distribution.  That lasted a short while!
>
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