[Leaplist] My "Ethic" and how much BS does a BS work? -- I liken da'Homer "math"

[Kyle Gonzales]

Thank you both for dissuading me from becoming a consultant! ;) 

On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 20:37 -0500, Chris wrote:
> Bryan J. Smith wrote:
> 
> >
> > In Florida, it's impossible for me to break $50/hour, and many don't
> > like to pay more than $20-30/hour max.  But in the mid-west, I can
> > easily get $60+.  Texas, which costs no more to live than Florida, is
> > also close to that.
> >
> > In the north-east, I don't come for anything less than $75/hour
> > because hotels are $100+/night!
> >
> 
> The last time I was in a Northeast motel, the chick who
> knocked on my door wouldn't come for anything less
> than $75 an hour either. Hmmmm...
> 
> 
> >
> > Chris wrote:
> >
> >> Damn - I've been charging $20 per hour - I thought something
> >> wasn't right ;-) It's that darn invoicing software.
> >
> >
> > You're low-balling yourself.  For on-site, 24+ hours/week, you should
> > be charging more like $30/hour for Florida, at least.  For on-call,
> > double it.
> 
> 
> My tongue was, as usual, in my cheek there - the joke of the
> admin betrayed by his own support software - of course, even
> $20 may not be low-balling - you haven't payed for my dubious
> services ;-)
> 
> >
> >> Give it a break guys - the IRS reads this stuff too! (at least,
> >> in my paranoid world, they do)
> >
> >
> > The IRS loves my butt.  My tax returns have been $10,500, $4,500 and
> > $6,500 the last 3 years.  I overpay.  I take a standard deduction and
> > Schedule C.
> >
> 
> The IRS loves being essentially free of constitutional checks
> and balances, and your butt is not the only pound of flesh they
> want. Follow the history of most of the really evil secret
> police, KGB or whatever back, and they often had their roots in
> revenue collection. Or, there's always FairTax.org ...
> 
> >> As far as what we're worth? Almost exactly what someone is willing to 
> >> pay,
> >> in a free market.
> >
> >
> > Cost-of-living is a factor as well.  Just renting a single bed-room
> > here is over $1,000/month.  I've already spent over $10,000 living in
> > a hotel for 4 months.  Connecticut is damn expensive!
> >
> Cost-of-living has never been a factor in what consumers
> are willing to pay - which establishes worth. Whether it
> costs me, as a consultant, $200 per diem in expenses to live
> does not enter into my worth to a client. It doesn't matter if
> it costs Pepsi $4.00 per liter to bottle, advertise, ship, etc.
> their product. Ultimately their worth is determined by whether
> folks will buy Pepsi for $5.00 per liter - which seems unlikely,
> as long as Coke can sell their product for $0.75 per liter. The
> consumer doesn't care about the overhead - that's the problem
> of the provider. In other words, if I'm picking oranges for
> $3.00 per hour, my employer doesn't give a flip about my
> living expenses, whether I have fourteen kids, or grandma
> needs an operation. If I claim that the job is worth more than
> $3.00 per hour, but I can be replaced in an hour by someone
> else willing to do the work for the same wages, then I am
> obviously mistaken about the worth of the job - and my own
> worth, if that is the only job I can/am willing to do.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
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