[Leaplist] FC6 conversion from Ubuntu? -- what FC6 "registration"?

[Marc]

Attack me if you want, not a pissing contest I assure you.  I hate 'distro
wars' but I have dealt with the company on several fronts recently and I
have not liked some of what I found (believe me or not I don't care).

As for the 'registration' topic - it was on the RH/Fedora lists recently -
IIRC it was some sort of user registration/tracking scheme.  I can't find
the link on the web either.  Search the lists and you will find what I am
talking about.  Apparrently they *did* back off on it - that I am glad to
hear.

Marc











On 11/10/06, Bryan J. Smith <thebs413 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Marc wrote:
> > I am the opposite at this point.  I have been a 'die hard' RH user
>
> I've _never_ been a "die hard" Red Hat user.  But I do get 80% of my
> Linux work on Red Hat-based solutions.  As a result, I tend to run
> Fedora Project-based systems personally.
>
> Until about Fedora Core 3, it probably wasn't the best experience out
> there -- at least not without tapping a lot of things outside of the
> "official" project.  But as of Fedora Core 3, the "official" project
> and focus have really turned into something that minimizes my
> headaches.
>
> > until recently when I decided that I was tired of 'carrying water' for a
> company
> > that is consistently flaky with regards to some of its software (RHCS,
> GFS),
>
> I've found that issues with RHCS and GFS are a result of people
> implementing it _poorly_, and not the products themselves.  Red Hat
> documents in what configurations they will work.  Then people go off
> and try to "hack implement" it into things it was _never_ designed
> for.
>
> That's always been the problem.
>
> In reality, I find many Sun solutions are superior to Red Hat or even
> Novell-SuSE for that matter, depending on the application.  I don't
> try to force Linux in a hole where it doesn't fit well or have the
> majority or design focus.
>
> > most especially with regards to support of mission critical apps they
> sell,
> > flaky people who work for the company,
>
> Examples?
>
> > and now the recent thing with FC6 and the fact that RH now wants you to
> 'register'
> > with them and/or be tracked by them.
>
> Huh?  Okay, explain this to me like a 2 year-old.
>
> I've installed Fedora Core 6 no less than 3 times now.  Where is this
> "registration" you speak of?
>
> I didn't see it in the installer.
> I didn't see it in first-boot.
> I didn't see it _anywhere_.
>
> The only thing I've noted is that Red Hat allows you to connect to the
> Internet during installation to add repositories.
>
> So, again, where is this "registration" you speak of?!?!?!
>
> > I just left all the RH lists I was on and I am a happy Ubuntu user now.
>
> Translation:  PISS ... I'M DISTRO PISSING ....
>
> Ubuntu is a great distro!  I have a few fellow engineers here at work
> running it and I've been helping them learn Linux more.  No complains
> from this Fedora user at all!  No sir!
>
> > Anything that I can't do I will post, get help with, invent a way to do
> it,
> > find a workaround, etc.
>
> That's good.  Resourceful Ubuntu users are always welcome!  In fact, I
> might have a few questions myself as I'm helping fellow engineers at
> work with it.
>
> > Personally I am happier with a somewhat less bleeding edge, but more
> > stable distro.
>
> Fedora Core tends to adopt newer ABI before _any_ other distro, and
> this breaks things.  SELinux is another thing that purposely breaks
> things.
>
> Fedora Core 2 and 4 were rather "cutting-edge" in their adoption.
> Fedora Core 3 built upon 2, and Fedora Core 5 and 6 build upon 4.  It
> was nice to see Fedora Core 6 as the 3rd "revision" with minimal
> changes (at least in ABI) from 4.
>
> > The only advice I can say is to find a way around the 'registration'
> process
> > with FC6.  That is, unless they have backed off of that in the past 2
> weeks or so.
>
> I downloaded the 10/19 release for i386 from an "accidentialy open"
> mirror before the official 10/24 (IIRC) release date.  I downloaded
> x86-64 the day of the release.
>
> I have _no_idea_ what you are talking about.  Really!  What is this
> "registration" you speak of?
>
> > I am still open to SuSE if the desktop product is worth buying but it's
> hard to
> > beat free (as in beer ha ha).
>
> OpenSuSE perhaps?  But even SuSE Linux is downloadable.  You can still
> use the freely downloadable, "non-redistributable" CD with _both_.
>
> Novell has done very good.
>
> Maybe you should check your facts before distro pissing next time?
>
> Well, I'm off to find out about this "registration" that I allegedly
> "had to do" to install Fedora Core 6.  ;)
>
>
> --
> Bryan J. Smith         Professional, Technical Annoyance
> mailto:b.j.smith at ieee.org   http://thebs413.blogspot.com
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