[Leaplist] FC6 conversion from Ubuntu? -- what FC6 "registration"?

[Bryan J. Smith]

Marc wrote:
> I am the opposite at this point.  I have been a 'die hard' RH user

I've _never_ been a "die hard" Red Hat user.  But I do get 80% of my
Linux work on Red Hat-based solutions.  As a result, I tend to run
Fedora Project-based systems personally.

Until about Fedora Core 3, it probably wasn't the best experience out
there -- at least not without tapping a lot of things outside of the
"official" project.  But as of Fedora Core 3, the "official" project
and focus have really turned into something that minimizes my
headaches.

> until recently when I decided that I was tired of 'carrying water' for a company
> that is consistently flaky with regards to some of its software (RHCS, GFS),

I've found that issues with RHCS and GFS are a result of people
implementing it _poorly_, and not the products themselves.  Red Hat
documents in what configurations they will work.  Then people go off
and try to "hack implement" it into things it was _never_ designed
for.

That's always been the problem.

In reality, I find many Sun solutions are superior to Red Hat or even
Novell-SuSE for that matter, depending on the application.  I don't
try to force Linux in a hole where it doesn't fit well or have the
majority or design focus.

> most especially with regards to support of mission critical apps they sell,
> flaky people who work for the company,

Examples?

> and now the recent thing with FC6 and the fact that RH now wants you to 'register'
> with them and/or be tracked by them.

Huh?  Okay, explain this to me like a 2 year-old.

I've installed Fedora Core 6 no less than 3 times now.  Where is this
"registration" you speak of?

I didn't see it in the installer.
I didn't see it in first-boot.
I didn't see it _anywhere_.

The only thing I've noted is that Red Hat allows you to connect to the
Internet during installation to add repositories.

So, again, where is this "registration" you speak of?!?!?!

> I just left all the RH lists I was on and I am a happy Ubuntu user now.

Translation:  PISS ... I'M DISTRO PISSING ....

Ubuntu is a great distro!  I have a few fellow engineers here at work
running it and I've been helping them learn Linux more.  No complains
from this Fedora user at all!  No sir!

> Anything that I can't do I will post, get help with, invent a way to do it,
> find a workaround, etc.

That's good.  Resourceful Ubuntu users are always welcome!  In fact, I
might have a few questions myself as I'm helping fellow engineers at
work with it.

> Personally I am happier with a somewhat less bleeding edge, but more
> stable distro.

Fedora Core tends to adopt newer ABI before _any_ other distro, and
this breaks things.  SELinux is another thing that purposely breaks
things.

Fedora Core 2 and 4 were rather "cutting-edge" in their adoption.
Fedora Core 3 built upon 2, and Fedora Core 5 and 6 build upon 4.  It
was nice to see Fedora Core 6 as the 3rd "revision" with minimal
changes (at least in ABI) from 4.

> The only advice I can say is to find a way around the 'registration' process
> with FC6.  That is, unless they have backed off of that in the past 2 weeks or so.

I downloaded the 10/19 release for i386 from an "accidentialy open"
mirror before the official 10/24 (IIRC) release date.  I downloaded
x86-64 the day of the release.

I have _no_idea_ what you are talking about.  Really!  What is this
"registration" you speak of?

> I am still open to SuSE if the desktop product is worth buying but it's hard to
> beat free (as in beer ha ha).

OpenSuSE perhaps?  But even SuSE Linux is downloadable.  You can still
use the freely downloadable, "non-redistributable" CD with _both_.

Novell has done very good.

Maybe you should check your facts before distro pissing next time?

Well, I'm off to find out about this "registration" that I allegedly
"had to do" to install Fedora Core 6.  ;)


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Bryan J. Smith         Professional, Technical Annoyance
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