[Leaplist] MS Office vs. OpenOffice -- Guys, get your *FACTS* straight (and stop marketing for Microsoft) ...

[Bryan J. Smith]

William Warren wrote:
> Tell that to Samba.

You fool!  Seriously!  Read up on Jeremy Allison yourself!!!  He's
much rather be working on innovating than reverse engineering.  In
fact, he's left a lot of those details to others!

Furthermore, you just made my point!!!  Samba is *NOT* a "replacement"
at all!  It's just one small component.  It will *NEVER* replace the
"lock-in" of Windows -- what Microsoft is selling *NOW* (i.e., at the
present time)!

Moving target ... moving target ... incompatibility ...
incompatibility ... WINE 1.0 any day now?!?!?!  @-ppp

> I ahve been.  I have been researching for quite some time.  Freeware can
> and has solved many hostageware problems.  Samba for windows file
> services(not AD).

*SMACK*!  Samba does *NOT* replace ADS!!!  My God, I can't believe you
said that!  Just made my point -- *ENTIRELY*!

> Scalix, and others for exchange.

Oh, there's a good one!  Trade one vendor lock-in for another?!
Man, you just keep digging that hole *DEEPER*!

> I can and do htink for myself and my clients.

Apparently *NOT*!  You are just trading one vendor lock-in solution for another!

> The reality check is on your side Bryan.
> Just because it works for you because you can write code

WTF?  When did I even bring this up?  I do far more integration that
writing code!  Just today I was joking that my client rep shouldn't
have me break out any C if he didn't want it broken!  ;->

> doesn't mean it iwll work for those of us that aren't able to.

Sigh ... you expect developers to play the "follow the commercial buy
and reverse engineer for you" game.  No!  No!  *HELL*NO*!

> I have donated time to projects by testing and using apps that may solve
> my issues.  Despite attitudes like yours and the insults that follow i
> will continue to look for solutions.

*YOU* don't realize the *INSULTS* you make by *EXPECTING* the
"community" to solve *YOUR* vendor lock-in choices.  Again ...

You say things like ...
  "And that's one of the primary things limiting Linux on the desktop IME."

*YOU*EXPECT* people to solve *YOUR* vendor lock-in choices!  Nuts!

> I get my clients because they can see i also think outside the MS box.

"Think outside the MS box"?  You are merely integrating vendor lock-in
solutions or going with alternative, vendor lock-in solutions.
*GREAT*JOB*!  Really, *GREAT*JOB*!

I suppose you believe in the Google "Do No Evil" slogan too?
ABM is just another incarnation of ABI.

[ I.e., That's "Anything But Microsoft" is just like "Anything But IBM" ]