[Leaplist] MS Office vs. OpenOffice -- vendor lock-in is a *CHOICE* made by *YOU*

[William Warren]

off-list as this is going nowhere.

Bryan J. Smith wrote:
> William Warren wrote:
>>   BS> "Then say *THAT*.  Not what Linux does and doesn't do --
>>   BS> or what it needs to do for you."
>> It's about what Linux can and can't do for me and my clients.
> 
> So you want Linux to solve vendor lock-in *CHOICES* by you and your 
> clients?
> You really need to read the Gartner study of 2001 on this!
> 
>> My statement stands Bryan.
>> Linux can't do access for me and my clients.
>> When it can then i'm good to go.
> 
> And it will *NEVER* solve vendor lock-in *CHOICES* by you and your clients!
> You don't seem to "get that."
> 
> William Warren wrote:
>>   BS> No community solution is going to solve it for you.
>> And that's one of the primary things limiting Linux on the desktop IME.
> 
> What?  That Linux doesn't solve the ignorant consumers' *CHOICE* to
> lock themselves into specific applications, versions and countless
> other data-loss?
> 
> Listen, I'm going to say this for the last time, what you are asking
> is for *MASSIVE* reverse-engineering efforts into areas that are
> *INFEASIBLE*!  It's bad enough that Microsoft doesn't do it for their
> own customers (which should make you re-consider), but the effort
> required to undertake such is *EXPONENTIAL* over what Microsoft should
> do because it should value its customers.
> 
> So you, as a consumer, are rewarding them for their *PURPOSEFUL*
> Orphanware/Abandonware!  MS Access is the absolute king of this.  At
> least MS Word doesn't re-use tags incompatibly but every 2-3 versions
> -- Access MDAC/ADO/Jet is basically *ORPHANWARE* by *1* version!
> 
>> For you that may not be a large problem.  For me(being a one man shop)
>> and my clients(mainly shops less than 10 employees)is huge.  I speak
>> from my experience with my clients.
> 
> Here's the deal.  You keep feeling the overwhelming need to "excuse"
> yourself.  *STOP*!  Honestly, *STOP*!
> 
> It's one thing for you to say, "Oh, well my clients choose this, and I
> support them because they support me.  If they choose to lock-in their
> data, then that's their choice.  I will get paid regardless."
> 
> I'd *100%* respect you for that.
> 
> But it's another thing to say things like ...
>  "It's about what Linux can and can't do for me and my clients."
>  "And that's one of the primary things limiting Linux on the desktop IME."
> 
> No offense, but you and your client's "problem" has *0* to do with Linux.
> It has *0* to do with community software and the community itself.
> It has *0* to do with standards, solutions and avoiding risk to data.
> 
> It has *EVERYTHING* to do with just doing what the client asks.
> If you would have just said that, I've got *NO* problem with you.
> But then you go off and blame Linux for not solving it for you.
> 
> It just represents how you approach everything.  Blame, blame, blame
> everyone else for what *YOU* choose.  I'm a jerk, but I'm a
> self-admitting jerk.  I'm 100% responsible for what I say and do, and
> always will be.
> 
> -- Bryan
> 
> P.S.  And I *AM* a 1-man shop!  I'm in New England 1,100 miles from my
> wife.  So don't you even start.  I've been doing this for years now
> and trust me, people make these "oh, the BS is an exception" and "oh,
> BS has it easy" all-the-time.  BS!  Utter BS!  If you don't think I
> have to explain things in terms of risk to sell things, you honestly
> don't get anything I say.
> 
> I recognize what the community can and can't do for me.
> Because *NO*ONE* can avoid vendor lock-in but *ME*.
> 
> But I guess that's why I make the money I do.  I work 6-9 months of
> the year and relax 3-6 months.  It's just the role I've accepted.
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